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From Jocelyn Geboy <smussyolay@yahoo.com>
Subject Re: one hook blunders and wonders
Date Wed, 10 Dec 2003 20:53:05 -0800 (PST)

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~~~~~yeah. 'closing time' is now legendary to a lot of
people. they equate it with semisonic as they equate
'roll to me' with del amitri, and unfortunately, in
both cases, i don't think that either song is anywhere
near the quality of their other work/s.  in fact, both
singles don't have anywhere the lyrical, musical, or
emotional content of any of the bands' other albums or
songs.

yet, it seems they will always be judged by/for these
songs.

jocelyn  
--- "Seaman, Dave" <seamand@upmc.edu> wrote:
> 
> <<< From: "Robert Sutliff"
> <Rsutliff@columbus.rr.com>
> Y'now, I like Semisonic a pretty good bit, but if I
> hear Closing Time one
> more time I'm gonna barf. It was pretty good the
> first thousand or so times
> I heard it. They do have a way with hooks that the
> rest of us
> musicians/auditeers could learn from.>>>
> 
> Is it just me, or is anyone else not so impressed
> with "Closing Time"?
> Assuming that the hook in the song refers to the
> vocal melody that is
> introduced in the first few lines of the song --
> well, I thought the hook
> was decent - not good or bad, just decent.   And the
> song is basically just
> this one hook repeated over and over and over and
> over and over again.
> Sorry, but the song just plain kinda bores me.  
> 
> There are a lot of rock and pop songs over the years
> that rely upon one
> melodic hook and repeat it ad nauseum throughout the
> song - with maybe only
> one or two (or no) brief respites from the one hook.
>   This type of song
> usually leaves me cold.   There exceptions though --
> Rebel Rebel and Twist
> and Shout, to name a few more well known ones. 
> Rebel has basically one
> hook, the guitar riff - but it is such a great
> riff... this, the lyrics and
> the attitude carry the song for me.  And T&S just
> has such great singing and
> spirit and passion - even though I've heard it
> 10,000 times and it's really
> only one vocal hook with a call back vocal, over the
> same 3 chord pattern -
> I still dig it.   Usually, though, I prefer a melody
> that goes some where.
>
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