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From "Carolina" <chilindrina2002@terra.es>
Subject Re: Jackson to be arrested (Ryan Hoekstra)
Date Fri, 21 Nov 2003 15:32:42 +0100

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Ryan,
You're mixing concepts and your history lesson was poor and incorrect.
- Mestizo or "half-caste" is someone who has a father and a mother of
different races. Hispanic is someone who belongs to the hispanic culture,
originated in Hispania and taken to the american continent by the conquerors
(the bunch of guys who killed and destroyed everything they found just to
make money). So you can be white, black, etc... and be hispanic at the same
time. For your info, mestizo is a word all the hispanic countries use, not
only Central America and Mexico.
- I hope you're not trying to prove anything by telling me the US government
makes forms where hispanic is considered a race. Are we talking about the
same government that believes that Spain is a republic?

Anyway, a single phrase summarizes your idea: "Even though you have no
contact with these people we do".  Sure I have "contact" with "these
people". I work with "these people", I'm friends with "these people" and I'm
a one of those you call "these people".

I agree with Stewart though. There's no need to go on with this discussion
in this mail list.

(By the way, I don't remember who besides Seth said something about the
little rascals pun. I used to watch it when I was a kid and I loved
Alfalfa - alfalfa means the same in spanish and in english).

Carolina


Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 14:09:51 -0500
From: "Ryan Hoekstra" <erhoek@comcast.net>
To: <audities@smoe.org>
Subject: Re: Jackson to be arrested (Billy G. Spradlin)
Message-ID: <00c201c3af99$e03a9aa0$6400a8c0@attbi.com>

This is a legit statement..at least here in the states.And your tone is very
snarky and unnecessary!!!!
If you were to fill out a questionaire form here especially for government
work or something there would be a box to check for race. Hispanic is one of
those boxes offered.
A brief history lesson for our apparently Euro blue blood friend:
A long time ago your ancestoral countrymen came here and many other colonies
as well as Central and South America and mated with the local natives. Their
offspring are considered hispanic. In some parts of Central America and
Mexico they are called Mestizos.
Even though you have no contact with these people we do. Just as seemingly
all white people are called Caucasian and all dark skinned people are called
Black all people of Spanish and South and Central American native descent
are called Hispanic.
Chances are that the girls to which he referred are of this origin.

-r


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