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| From | "bob" <segarini@sympatico.ca> |
| Subject | Re: Let it be. busted |
| Date | Thu, 20 Nov 2003 17:01:10 -0500 |
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...that's, "music lover"...
bob
----- Original Message -----
From: "bob" <segarini@sympatico.ca>
To: <audities@smoe.org>
Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 5:00 PM
Subject: Re: Let it be. busted
> Hey Bobby...
> The remaining Beatles chose the takes and had final approval of the
> mix...what Naked is is what they wanted us to hear. That said, I have to
> listen to it with that in mind. In my experience, a music over will almost
> always stay true to the first version of anything he.she has ever heard. I
> have demos for my records which I much prefer over the finished product
that
> was released, and I will assume that the Beatles are the same way. Lennon
> always said he'd kill to re-record or remix everything the Beatles ever
> did...so in that context, this record is what they, (the remaining
Beatles),
> wanted to hear, and that makes everything else kind of moot.
>
> bob
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Robert Sutliff" <Rsutliff@columbus.rr.com>
> To: <audities@smoe.org>
> Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 4:50 PM
> Subject: Re: Let it be. busted
>
>
> > Bob,
> >
> > While you are undoubtably one of musical heroes I don't much agree with
> you
> > here. I have no quibbles with bringing the sound up to date (I listened
to
> > Past Masters Vol. 2 last night and really wanted to grab the studio pan
> > knob!). I even dug a good bit the mixes on the newish Yellow Submarine
> > release. What I do quibble with is using musically inferior takes i.e.
the
> > version of Long And Winding Road on Naked. It's obviously an earlier
take
> > where the band hadn't quite come to terms with the tune. In particular,
> > Ringo's drummming is just not there yet. His use of the ride cymbal on
the
> > Glyn Johns version (and yes the Spector version) much improves the feel
of
> > the song. Also, I didn't mention it earlier but Antares Auto Tune is
> present
> > on everything. For God's sake, the Fab Four just didn't need that. Like
> > everyone else in the world with a modern studio, I use Auto Tune, but
only
> > when I have to. It really adds an artificial ambience and once you've
> heard
> > it you know it when you hear it. Still, I don't remotely hate Naked. I
> just
> > don't like it even half as much as the Spector version.
> >
> > And yes, the music is timeless. I love that band more than every other
> band
> > in the world put together. They were that good.
> >
> > Bobby Sutliff
> > NP - I guess I've got to pull out Wackering Heights again.
> >
> >
> > > Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 15:41:42 -0500
> > > From: "bob" <segarini@sympatico.ca>
> > > To: <kingradio@pumpingstation.com>, <audities@smoe.org>
> > > Cc: <canadianclassicrock@yahoogroups.com>
> > > Subject: Re: Let it be. busted.
> > > Message-ID: <001201c3afa6$b709a380$41aae2d1@sympatico.ca>
> > >
> > > We must have gotten two different versions of the CD...mine is a HUGE
> > > improvement over the previous release and boots...not only that, but
> > > bringing the sound up to date proves how timeless the music is, (there
> is
> > a
> > > difference, you know, between the quality of the sound of a record and
> the
> > > quality of the music and songs contained therein), and will
undoubtedly
> > turn
> > > yet another generation onto how good pop music can be.
> > > Now if they only had the technoligy to improve the MATERIAL on a lot
of
> > > today's great SOUNDING records...
> > >
> > > bob
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Frank Padellaro" <kingradio@pumpingstation.com>
> > > To: <audities@smoe.org>
> > > Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 3:18 PM
> > > Subject: Let it be. busted.
> > >
> > >
> > > > I've just got my hands on Nekkid and let me tell you, I am really
> bummed
> > > out. Let me start by saying that I was really looking forward to this
> > > release, and I, like most others I know, was under the impression that
> > Phil
> > > wrecked a great record, blah blah blah.
> > > >
> > > > Well, I prefer his overproduced version to this, that's for sure.
To
> > > begin with, the mix just sounds messed up. The drums sound doubly
> > > compressed, and the cymbals are all hashy and really offensive
sounding
> to
> > > me. The best thing about the mixes is how present and wonderful Billy
> > > Preston sounds. But otherwise I have nothing good to say about them.
> The
> > > drums are louder and more clear, but the warm mushy drums of the old
> > version
> > > are far more pleasing to the ear than the perfectly rendered current
> drum
> > > mix, which lets you hear just how dead and awful that drum kit was for
> > those
> > > sessions. The vocals have a really crummy sounding reverb, which is a
> > > marked difference from the pleasant reverb of the original versions.
> > > >
> > > > Lastly, I was absolutely horrified when listening to "Two of Us" to
> hear
> > > one of the McCartney lines clearly pitch corrected with auto-tune.
This
> > was
> > > such a foreign sound in a Beatles song, and it chilled me right to my
> > core.
> > > It sounded like some modern rock radio song for a split second. With
my
> > > ears tuned in, I heard several other moments of auto-tune clearly on
> other
> > > parts of the record as well.
> > > >
> > > > One of my favorite things about the Beatles is how well McCartney
and
> > > Lennon, though not always perfectly in tune, always manage to sound
> > > together. Now they've ruined that.
> > > >
> > > > This album is an abortion and I hate it!
> > > >
> > > > Anyone who is really interested in hearing the original recordings
as
> > > intended should grab one of the many various boots that are available
of
> > > Glynn Johns' original mixes. They are much richer and pleasing to my
> ear,
> > > and will give you the same nice feeling of hearing Paul sing The Long
> and
> > > Winding Road without a ton of Spectarian crap piled on top of it.
> > > >
> > > > What a Bummer,
> > > > Frank.
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
>
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