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| From | Jocelyn Geboy <smussyolay@yahoo.com> |
| Subject | Re: 4/4 or Fight (was Re: What makes a great song? Poll!?!!) |
| Date | Wed, 17 Sep 2003 21:51:12 -0700 (PDT) |
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~~~bravo, kind sir. bravo.
jocelyn
--- David Bash <bashpop@earthlink.net> wrote:
> --- In audities@yahoogroups.com, Lord Granger
> <glowfriend2003@y...> wrote:
>
> > So why is there a persistent, core group of
> > individuals here intent on squelching any kind of
> > meaningful discourse? Why are so many here
> offended by
> > pushy, individualistic, sometimes
> arrogant-appearing
> > posters (ie. me, Eb, Geir, and JR Taylor)? Why is
> > there so much of this?
>
> Auditeers are absolutely not intent on squelching
> any kind of meaningful
> discourse on music, but we are a group of
> considerate people who do not
> cotton to being mocked or condesended. If people
> like you would (or would
> have, in Eb's case) simply, courteously state your
> views without coming off
> as glib, arrogant, or sarcastic, I'm sure we could
> have a very healthy,
> enriching exchange of ideas, even if those ideas you
> presented were totally
> contrary to what you perceive as the pervading
> "groupthink".
>
> > Craig, I did a little research as you recommended,
> and, yes, I most
> definitely perceive a pattern here.
>
> The pattern is that most of the newcomers with
> dissenting ideas also seem to
> have the persistent habit of discoursing on them
> with the kind of tone that
> I described in the last paragraph. For example,
> when Arthur Bang innocently
> asked how he could protect himself from someone who
> might try to steal his
> song ideas, your response made him appear to be a
> dimwitted, naive peon who
> needs to get a life. Had you merely stated that an
> unknown songwriter need
> not be concerned with these issues because the
> likelihood that a potential
> thief would even his music is very small, rather
> than call him a "pustule"
> and reduce his songwriting to something less than
> insignificance on the
> value scale, it would have gotten the point across
> just as effectively, but
> without the perceived ill will.
>
> I've noticed that so many people who fancy
> themselves as dissenters and
> revel in stirring up the calm waters tend to also
> equate being nice with
> being weak, and find courtesy and cordiality akin to
> having leprosy. I
> guarantee you that if you wrap your contrary views
> in a cloak of kindness
> and respect, nobody's nose will be bent out of
> joint. If you find this
> notion to be repulsive then your revelation that
> you've come to regret being
> a member of this list is probably well-founded.
>
> David
>
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