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From | Mike Vancha <mvancha@sk.sympatico.ca> |
Subject | Possible for two people to write the same tune? |
Date | Tue, 09 Sep 2003 23:59:53 +0000 |
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> From: bob <segarini@sympatico.ca>
> Reply-To: audities@smoe.org
> Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2003 19:15:45 -0400
> To: audities@smoe.org
> Subject: Re: No need to register copyrights.
>
> Completely possible.
> When I was 13 I wrote a song fragment that I sang out loud to and from
> school for months. That was 1958...six years later I heard the exact phrase
> and the exact notes that I had written six years earlier. It could not have
> been anything other than random happenstance. There is no other
> explaination.
> The phrase? "Listen...do..wa..ooh...Do You Want To know A
> Secret...do..wa..ooh"...you probably know who the band was. And that is
> absolutely true.
>
I believe it, Bob. How many musical note patterns are there that sound good
together out of the 12 notes? Not too too many. I guess it's just a matter
of how they are combined.
Mike V.
> bob
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mike Vancha" <mikevancha@sk.sympatico.ca>
> To: <audities@smoe.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 11:06 AM
> Subject: Re: No need to register copyrights.
>
>
>>
>>
>>> From: bob <segarini@sympatico.ca>
>>> Reply-To: audities@smoe.org
>>> Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2003 04:43:10 -0400
>>> To: audities@smoe.org
>>> Subject: Re: No need to register copyrights.
>>>
>>> There are only 5 octaves and 12 notes...amazing someone doesn't get
> "ripped
>>> off" every 15 minutes.
>>> You are bound to hear similar sounding songs to your own if you write
> enough
>>> and listen to enough recorded music, but like I said...the chances of
>>> someone ripping you off on pupose are tiny at best, the stuff of hoary
>>> movies and Columbo scripts...
>>> He's So Fine/My Sweet Lord: A rare instance of an Artist not realizing
> he'd
>>> heard the tune before...how embarrassed do you think George was about
> that?
>>>
>>> bob
>>>
>> Bob,
>>
>> What if Harrison wrote/discovered the song as an original another song
>> happened to be like that? There are only so many notes and patterns, as
> you
>> say.
>>
>> Mike V.
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Mike Vancha" <mvancha@sk.sympatico.ca>
>>> To: <audities@smoe.org>
>>> Sent: Monday, September 08, 2003 9:53 AM
>>> Subject: No need to register copyrights.
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> From: bob <segarini@sympatico.ca>
>>>>> Reply-To: audities@smoe.org
>>>>> Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2003 12:52:16 -0400
>>>>> To: audities@smoe.org
>>>>> Subject: Re: Easiest way to copyright your music..
>>>>>
>>>>> In forty plus years of being a published songwriter I have never known
>>> of or
>>>>> experienced another writer stealing a song.
>>>>> Songwriters put a lot of work into what they do...the thought of
>>> stealing
>>>>> another person's work would rarely, if ever, occur to them.
>>>>> How many times has that actually happened? Not many...it's usually
> news
>>> when
>>>>> it does, and hardly anyone suing ever wins the court case.
>>>>> People that worry about being "ripped off", are either not
> songwriters,
>>> or
>>>>> have thought of stealing someone else's work themselves...otherwise,
> why
>>>>> would they even think that someone else would do it to them?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hey Bob,
>>>>
>>>> where did that fallacy about the likelihood of unknown writers getting
>>>> ripped off come from anyway? The chances are indeed very remote, it
> seems,
>>>> and usually it's the bands/songs with the greatest popularity that are
>>>> ripped off/borrowed from by someone just starting up.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Mike V.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Lord Granger" <glowfriend2003@yahoo.com>
>>>>> To: <audities@smoe.org>
>>>>> Sent: Monday, September 08, 2003 12:36 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: Easiest way to copyright your music..
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Arthur Bang wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have a friend who wants to use
>>>>>>> one of my songs in a video he's
>>>>>>> doing and I hate for too many people
>>>>>>> to hear these, because someone might
>>>>>>> take it and record it for themselves
>>>>>>> and then I wouldn't get credit.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes, Arthur, the world is FULL of songwriters just
>>>>>> waiting -- with fangs bared and claws out -- to rip
>>>>>> off your disjointed, fragmented, inconsequential song
>>>>>> ideas. Think of all the money, fame and cocaine other
>>>>>> artists will receive by stealing one of YOUR SONGS. It
>>>>>> happens all the time: in fact, I'm thinking of
>>>>>> stealing a Cliff Hillis song myself, just because
>>>>>> there's so much money to be made. ;)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Come on, Arthur, what've you written, "Tommy"? "Split
>>>>>> Milk?" "Varying Degrees of Failure and Tunelessness"?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I didn't think so.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's highly doubtful anyone will even ACKNOWLEDGE your
>>>>>> music, let alone 'take credit' for it. Don't be such a
>>>>>> pustule; put your music out there and let it stand on
>>>>>> its own -- or let it fall flat on its face. If you're
>>>>>> such an amazing writer, why worry about being ripped
>>>>>> off? You can always write another great song.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Oh, try this:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://copyclear.com/copyright.shtml
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Reminds me of a story: I met a songwriter at a recent
>>>>>> local open-mic night up here on the Central Coast; I
>>>>>> struck up a conversation with the gal who said she'd
>>>>>> written some amazing songs. I asked where I could hear
>>>>>> her music, and she said, "Oh, no, I won't play my
>>>>>> music for ANYONE; someone will steal my ideas and take
>>>>>> credit for them."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ROFLMAO.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Songwriters: get a life ya'll. The industry -- and the
>>>>>> world, for that matter -- has rendered you obsolete.
>>>>>> Go learn code or something equally banal.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The Lord has spoken.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -LG-
>>>>>>
>>>>>> NP: The Golden Archies -- McRock
>>>>>>
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