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| From | ronald and karen sanchez <eldeluxe@mcn.net> |
| Subject | Re: New Music Format -- MULTI-TRACK |
| Date | Thu, 04 Sep 2003 14:28:15 -0700 |
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On the other hand, I'd rather not let people monkey around with my trax. If
I've spent as much time on a song as we usually do, I don't see what else
people are gonna do. Besides they would have to figure out were all the bum
notes and buzzes are that I had to duck out of the mix.
I did an album for a guy once, but they took it away to mix. I'd already done
mixes for the songs I felt strongest about. When they came back, I found they'd
used wrong guitar solos, and worse pushed that fukkin' cow bell right up front,
but lost the "motown tambourine". They pretty much ruined the songs because
the artist couldn't explain what I had in mind as producer. He wised up and did
his next album here, beginning to end.
For the most part, I've resisted the temptation to go back and remix Brain
tracks. There are a few I know I could do better now, but why obsess over it. I
got plenty of new songs to worry about.
RS
NP: Jeff Kelly Indiscretion. Just found it (along with YMG Salad Days) in the
cheap bin down at the local shop. Much to my surprise it's better than the last
three Green PJs albums!
Robert Sutliff wrote:
> I'd be happy to let folks have their way with my multi-tracks. Still, not
> that many people are set up to do it. But with the advent of cheap, fast,
> computers, decent affordable soundcards (the M-Audio audiophile 2496 is what
> I use - around $150) and easy to use software (N-Track is fabulous and
> around $60) it is possible. If a song has around 20 different tracks and is
> around 4 minutes long you could get about one and a half songs on a cd with
> uncompressed 16 bit 44.1 khz files so a complete album would take many discs
> for the whole project. I personally wouldn't be interested in using
> compressed files or God forbid, MP3s.
>
> Bobby Sutliff
>
> >
> > Date: Thu, 04 Sep 2003 12:45:39 -0400
> > From: "Jaimie Vernon" <bullseyecanada@hotmail.com>
> > To: audities@smoe.org
> > Subject: Re: New Music Format -- MULTI-TRACK
> > Message-ID: <BAY2-F52pTljBOh8s4K000003cd@hotmail.com>
> >
> > It has been done...both Todd Rungren and David Bowie have experimented
> with
> > this on releases in the last decade. I think it was considered a gimmick
> at
> > the time because music software for mixing (i.e. ProTools, Logic Audio, et
> > al) was out of reach for the average home user. Cake Walk and Sound Forge
> > got into the game for the home market, but Bowie and Runt were supplying a
> > custom software -- which I imagine was what they were actually trying to
> > sell, as opposed to the music itself.
> >
> > I would love to be able to do this with my artists but there's a lot of
> > resistance. The main one is the butchering and bastardizing of the
> original
> > songs. Purist fans would probably stay pretty true to the intent of the
> > songs with preferences to the amount of treble, bass, prominant
> > instrumentation mixing, stereo vs. mono, etc.
> >
> > But what happens when some mixmeister decides that the tune needs an
> > accordian solo or a new vocal provided by the daughter of the next door
> > neighbor...or it becomes a parody. Even if you protect the software from
> > pirating by limiting the useage to one specific computer, the results
> can't
> > be controlled. You'll have zillions of remixes being uploaded to
> > peer-to-peer and proliferating beyond the reach of the artist's ability to
> > recover any income from it.
> >
> > Personally, I'd love to see this happen. It would be fun trying to collect
> > all the different remixes of a particular song or album. It might even
> spur
> > on sales of the software/album by the artists because people would want to
> > compete in the remix sweeps....Hell, you could make a contest out of it
> and
> > thereby really ramp up the initial sales [I believe Runt made it possible
> > for people to post THEIR remixes on a forum of some kind....maybe it was
> > Bowie....don't recall].
> >
> > But, a few acts I've worked with have denied multi-track remixing for any
> of
> > their classic works because of poorly handled remixes by reputable
> > producers....so convincing them that neophytes should be allowed the
> > opportunity to reek havoc on their masterworks is going to be tough.
> >
> > I think we might be able to get former Klaatu man Dee Long to do something
> > like this....he's software savvy and always on top of technology. I'll run
> > this by him...
> >
> >
> > Jaimie Vernon,
> > President,
> > Bullseye Records of Canada, Inc.
> > http://www.bullseyecanada.com
> > "Not Suing Our Customers Since 1985!"
-- Ronald Sanchez
Director Of A&R
Career Records
www.CareerRecords.com
The Donovan's Brain Web Site
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