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From "MTN HIGH" <mtn-high@msn.com>
Subject Re: rant 'n' roll
Date Wed, 16 Jul 2003 13:24:51 +0000

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>From: "Kerry Chicoine" <KChicoine@whitehat.com>

>Where are the audiences?

Great posts, folks. Again...I thank those of you who do what you do.

Preface: I'm not in the biz...just a fan with a wallet and a family. Here's 
some of my perspective...should you care.

Question:

How well are the Saturday/Sunday afternoon IPO shows "in the park" attended? 
Better or worse than the evening shows?

My situation is far different than many of you who live within a reasonable 
proximity to a major metropolitan area that MIGHT actually have pop shows to 
offer/attend. For me...it's a hefty 2 hour drive over 2 mountain passes to 
get to Denver for a show...that is...if *any* shows were to *ever* come to 
Denver. (apologies to MCarp for missing his Ft Collins appearance. If it 
weren't for neck surgery...I'd of been there) It's definitely a place that 
is far enough off the beaten path that many Audities artists just don't stop 
in CO.

Kerry's question re "audiences" is a good one. As a 40+ year old family 
man... I think it's important to remember that many 30+ pop/powerpop fans 
have families...and due to this...the "the show starts at 9...or 10...or 
later" DOESN'T work into the daily schedule whatsoever. (we're doing 
homework/giving baths, breaking up fights about then, FWIW) Not to take 
anything away from anyone who busts their butt in this industry...but if you 
think the music biz is rough...try having kids/balancing everyone else's 
schedule but your own/having little time for yourself...to play...to 
listen...to relax.

Then there's the whole "bar" scene and the "over 21" shows. Chances are I'd 
bring my kids if I could...and chances are better that I'll simply stay home 
if I can't. Yes..it's great to escape every-so-often and be without the 
kiddies...but it's a major hassle to line it all up (at least for us/w no 
family to step in as sitters) for a 45 minute set in a bar 2 hours away.

And shouldn't the kids be exposed also? It seems to me that limiting 
attendance in any way kills the messenger to an extent. My kids listen to 
stuff like the Rosenbergs and have shared the music with their friens who 
also LOVE it...but they'll never get a chance to see a band such as this 
because the shows all end up being in bars that tell them they can't come 
in. IMO, that's a big reason there's only 6 people at the show.

I know this isn't the entire reason the shows aren't well attended...but for 
me...it does play into the mix. Any show I attend in Denver that is a "9PM 
start time" insures that I'll not hit the bed until 2-3 AM... which 
again...makes it very hard to work into daily life for me...and I'm 
guessing...for others w/ families/responsibilities that extend far beyond 
just making it to the bar to catch some live tunes.

RE buying music/supporting artists: I try...but what I find is that with 
MANY of the Indie/DIY releases placed on lists here are nearly impossible to 
find/buy. Hopefully Kevins idea of amassing a list w/ links...etc. may help 
with this...but I can't tell you how many times I've travelled to THE store 
in Denver (Twist) that has the best selection of pop tunes in the city (IMO) 
only to be shut down because NONE of the obscure Indie bands touted here are 
anywhere to be found in the bins. Yes...i could order from multpile sources 
and secure some of these...but to me...1/2 the fun of being a music fan is 
going to the disc store and finding those hidden treasures.

Then there's the cost. Some of these homeade CD's are still in the $15 
range. It isn't hard (here anyway) to blow through the monthly budget on 
CD's at $15 a pop...and I find I have to pass on many discs I might have 
bought because of it. It's great that some of you get your tunes for free 
and can spread the word to the rest of us paying customers...but 
again...with hundreds of releases listed here ...each at $15 a pop...it's 
very limiting....and I hate to say it...but I see why folks download tunes 
because of the high cost associated with being a "mere fan" who heads to the 
disc store on a regular basis with $100 and leaves with only 5-6 discs that 
they may be buying "cold" in the first place.

Anyway....I hope I haven't ruffled any feathers here...but the above are a 
few reasons that I'm not the disc buying/show attending fiend I once was 
when I had nothing else to care/worry about except making it to the bar by 
9PM...

I suspect other 30-40 somethings are in a similar boat.

Pat

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