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| From | "bob" <segarini@sympatico.ca> |
| Subject | Re: Punk Rock |
| Date | Sun, 13 Jul 2003 22:53:19 -0400 |
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Golly, everyone is so serious on this list. Yeah, I was being glib, but many
a jest is based in truth...fact is, I could do that "connect the dots"
explanation of pop music dozens of different ways, but it was fun to blame
Iggy for Celine Dion.
I do disagree with the reverence you attach to Nirvana, however, but Mssr.
Cobain showed us all how much he loathed himself, his music, his friends,
and his family, by doing the single most self absorbed, selfish thing you
can do. His actions speak louder than his music ever will...
----- Original Message -----
From: "shawn campbell" <thursdayinjune@yahoo.com>
To: <audities@smoe.org>
Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2003 3:24 PM
Subject: Re: Punk Rock
>
> Bob writes:
>
> The Stooges begat Punk, Punk begat Grunge, Grunge
> begat Alt, and the
> fucking
> backlash begat Spearsd/Backstreet/Celine...
>
> I say:
>
> Since e-mail is absent of tone, sometimes it is tough
> to know whether posters are being sarcastic or sincere
> -- but I certainly hope this one was supposed to be
> tongue-in-cheek. To suggest that, not only are
> successful quality artists like Nirvana responsible
> for the crop of imitators immediately thrown at us by
> labels looking to capitalize on the current fashion,
> but that they are also responsible for any trend that
> appears as a reaction AGAINST said fashionable genre?
> Wow...that's putting a lot on the shoulders of a bunch
> of guys or girls who just wanted to get their music
> heard.
>
> Look at what was on the charts immediately before
> grunge/alt-rock: Milli Vanilli, New Kids on the Block,
> Tiffany, Debbie Gibson, Poison, Motley Crue, Taylor
> Dayne, Rick Astley. Sounds a lot like today's
> Backstreet Boys, N'Sync, Christina, Brittany, Pink,
> Linkin Park, Korn, Celine, etc.
>
> Or go back a decade earlier and see what the first
> generation of punk itself was reacting to: Starland
> Vocal Band, Terry Jacks, Andy Gibb, Debby Boone,
> disco, etc., as well as bands that were no longer in
> any way connected to their audiences -- the heavy
> metal/hard rock excesses (lifestyle and stylistic) of
> acts like Led Zeppelin and Black Sabbath, the wall of
> synths and/or tales of elves, faeries, and hobbits
> from the prog bands.
>
> Getting back to having a real relationship with your
> audience. Bringing the classic guitar-bass-drums
> combination back to popular music. Taking a stand on
> issues that mean something to you. Keeping your shows
> affordable. Puncturing the pretenses of corporate
> culture.
> Wow, punk rock ruined the glory that was
> mid-to-late-70s popular music? Who knew?
>
> --Shawn
>
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