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From Ralph Alfonso <ralph@nettwerk.com>
Subject CD/DVD/DVD-A/SACD - yikes!
Date Fri, 11 Jul 2003 11:25:26 -0700

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>Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2003 08:58:53 +0100
>From: bob_hutton@standardlife.com
>To: audities@smoe.org
>Subject: Bonus material on CDs
>Message-ID: 
><OFDDE37AF3.329AC072-ON80256D60.0029E13B@internal.standardlife.com>
>
>Technical question here:
>
>I know for years CDs have had CD-Rom bonus material, but why is it you
>never see CDs with bonus DVD material?  You can play a CD in a DVD player,
>you can play CDs and DVDs on a computer, why can't you have DVD and CD
>material on a single disc?  (The reason behind this question is that I have
>a CD player and a DVD player at home, but I only use a PC at work (don't
>own one) which has the CD ROM drive removed).
>



As my day job is Production manager (I deal with all the CD plants & 
DVD plants and all
the really UN-exciting - to the majority of people- aspects of the 
record industry) I can
answer this for you - it's two completely different processes.

You CANNOT have a CD with DVD video BUT you can have a DVD with bonus 
audio material.
The DVD of course cannot play in your CD player.

CDs can have video content but it is Quicktime or similar.

It gets funky when you get into the world of DVD-A, DVD audio discs, 
which is again another
format & while they can have video content, it is not DVD video 
quality (I am not an expert
on this aspect of it but this is what I've been told).

Because DVD is out-selling CD right now, the big push is music you 
can play on your DVD player
via your home system. Again, the drawback is you can't play these in 
CD players.

The SACD (Super Audio) format is getting a big push also because you 
CAN play  these in a CD player
(you cannot access the SACD audio however). They usually have two 
audio layers, a remastered
regular audio layer and the 5.1 SACD layer (some of this is pretty 
amazing, I was at my mastering
guy's studio - he does a lot of SACD for Sony - and it was wild.... 
you're standing in the middle of
a band playing or something...).

It makes my head hurt, personally, as it can be a little daunting and 
very reminiscent of the Beta/VHS
wars. Have you tried buying a low-end strictly cass deck lately? A 
lot of audio places don't carry them
any more.



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RE: copy protection


 From what I'm seeing thus far based on our releases & talking to EMI 
tech people.

The copy protected cds are no longer technically cds - they are 
software as they come with a built-in
driver/player ("Player.exe") you need to install if your drive 
doesn't do it automatically.
The #1 problem is the disc just sitting there, not doing anything 
(finding the driver or following
the prompts will solve this)

Older computers and some portable players have problems, which will 
probably be solved once
the EMI companies in the US adopt copy-protection (right now it is 
only Europe & canada) and
the software is updated.

There seems to be no problems if you have Macs.

None of the tech bulletins I've read mention anything about "mining" 
software but i will definitely
ask after reading about it here.

The ratio of complaints (in canada) has been fairly small and is 
mostly to do with older computers and/or
customers who don't really know how their computers work. Where there 
is an obvious unsolveable problem, EMI Canada will get you a 
non-protected disk if available (there is an 800-number on their 
copy-protected releases for customer support). We will probably be 
doing that once our IT guys are updated by EMI.

Anyway, this is obviously a  hot topic so my post here is strictly 
passing on some tech info that i have
that may be helpful.

As you know, I am an indie artist myself with my own indie label, so 
please don't direct any rants my way or ask
for further tech support. I will be glad to pass on info as I get 
updated, but for Canadian auditeers, there
is an EMI 800 number on their current releases to help you. I am the 
last guy you want to be tech support -
I can barely figure out our toaster at home. As my band mates know, 
you also DON'T want me to be the guy
driving you to the gig once you get into the town you're playing.









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