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From Michael Coxe <michael@audities.net>
Subject Re: "hard" pop/rock debate
Date Fri, 4 Jul 2003 12:55:09 -0700

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shoshana price wrote:
>
>Here's my two cents worth on this debate: The term
>"pop" is derived from popular and started being
>applied to all sorts of aspects of popular culture
>somewhere around the latter part of the 60s, including
>the music.  This happened to occur at a time when rock
>and roll (Stones, Who, etc) and the Beatles both
>happened to be at the top of their game.

Yes, I well understand this, but my point remains that
people didn't called rock-n-roll "pop". They called the 
Beatles, Who, Stones, etc rock-n-roll throughout the 60's.
I can't remember if Ed Sullivan called these groups pop
or rock-n-roll, but I also made the point that using pop
for rock-n-roll acts was limited to mostly stuffed shirt
critics ala the NY Times.

Now of course once the term "rock" found popularity all
sorts of genre nomenclatures came to be.

Me thinks this naming stuff is Jordon Oakes territory.

 - michael


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