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From Stewart Mason <flamingo@theworld.com>
Subject Re: ABC ... it's easy as 1,2,3
Date Fri, 04 Jul 2003 04:09:40 -0400

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At 01:49 AM 7/4/2003 -0500, Sager, Greg wrote:
>	I speak English, not Spanish, so any act that uses a Spanish
>definite article (e.g., Los Lobos, Los Bravos, Los Super Seven) gets filed
>under "Los". 

That strikes me as a direct contradiction of what you say below.  By this
logic, you're saying that, say, Rafael Neto and Rick Gagnon should file all
their Beatles records under T, to use the prevailing example, since they
speak Spanish and French.  I don't own many records by bands that use Los,
Les, Das or whatever, but I don't believe they should be filed under the
article.

>> Do you put your CD's by The Beatles in your 'T's' or your 'B's'? I guess
>> it's really not the same thing though, is it? Hmmmm....
>> 
>	The definite article of the primary user language ("The" for us
>Anglophones, as opposed to Spanish "Los", German "Das", French "Le",
>Norwegian "Det", etc.) isn't considered alphabetically relevant in any
>cataloging system of which I'm aware. Hence, every music store in which
>you've ever set foot files the Beatles in the"'B" bin and the Rolling Stones
>in the "R" bin, and I can't imagine anybody going against the grain by
>filing either band under "T" in their personal collections. Plus, consider
>for a moment just how many bands over the years have had names that began
>with the definite article. That includes the vast majority of all
>rock'n'roll and R&B acts from the fifties and sixties, a high percentage of
>all punk and power pop acts from the seventies and beyond, as well as a lot
>of other groups. If you consider the "The" to be alphabetically relevant,
>I'm guessing that much, if not most, of your music collection is filed under
>"T" -- which sorta reduces the usefulness of alphabetical order.

The one exception that I can think of at the moment is that Trouser Press
places the '80s band The Scene Is Now under T...I assume because the name
doesn't make grammatical sense otherwise.  I also have a rather nice album
by a Canadian dream-pop trio called An April March that I have filed under
AN instead of AP: they insist on the article as part of their name to
differentiate themselves from the former Miss Elinor Blake.

The one recent innovation to my filing system is that I noticed last year
that I had a fair number of CDs by "DJ Foo", and that the main place where
I buy CDs by such people, the Virgin Megastore, files these discs by the
rest of the DJ's handle, for the same logical reason that otherwise their
whole collection would be filed under D.  So now my stuff by DJ Krush is
under KR, DJ Shadow under SH, DJ Spooky under SP, etc.

S





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