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From Sam Smith <samsmith@colorado.edu>
Subject [Fwd: I'd hate to be his computer]
Date Tue, 17 Jun 2003 17:15:05 -0600

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  Well, heck, this looks like it might be fun...

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Subject: I'd hate to be his computer
Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 16:05:09 -0700
From: "greg stene, ph.d." <greg@mindthwack.com>
To: "Dr. Sam Smith" <orb@colorado.edu>, "Lair Stene" 
<lair22@earthlink.net>, "DeFrank, James, COL, OASD-PA" 
<Jay.DeFrank@osd.mil>, "Dr. Denny Wilkins" <dwilkins@sbu.edu>



Note that they give Slimeboy's site at the end, thank God.  I'd hate to 
be his computer connected to the Net. 
 
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A6241-2003Jun17.html
Hatch Takes Aim at Illegal Downloading




By TED BRIDIS
The Associated Press
Tuesday, June 17, 2003; 5:22 PM

WASHINGTON - The chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee said Tuesday 
he favors developing new technology to remotely destroy the computers of 
people who illegally download music from the Internet.

The surprise remarks by Sen. Orrin Hatch, R-Utah, during a hearing on 
copyright abuses represent a dramatic escalation in the frustrating 
battle by industry executives and lawmakers in Washington against 
illegal music downloads.

During a discussion on methods to frustrate computer users who illegally 
exchange music and movie files over the Internet, Hatch asked technology 
executives about ways to damage computers involved in such file trading. 
Legal experts have said any such attack would violate federal 
anti-hacking laws.

"No one is interested in destroying anyone's computer," replied Randy 
Saaf of MediaDefender Inc., a secretive Los Angeles company that builds 
technology to disrupt music downloads. One technique deliberately 
downloads pirated material very slowly so other users can't.

"I'm interested," Hatch interrupted. He said damaging someone's computer 
"may be the only way you can teach somebody about copyrights."

The senator acknowledged Congress would have to enact an exemption for 
copyright owners from liability for damaging computers. He endorsed 
technology that would twice warn a computer user about illegal online 
behavior, "then destroy their computer."

"If we can find some way to do this without destroying their machines, 
we'd be interested in hearing about that," Hatch said. "If that's the 
only way, then I'm all for destroying their machines. If you have a few 
hundred thousand of those, I think people would realize" the seriousness 
of their actions, he said.

"There's no excuse for anyone violating copyright laws," Hatch said.

Rep. Rick Boucher, D-Va., who has been active in copyright debates in 
Washington, urged Hatch to reconsider. Boucher described Hatch's role as 
chairman of the Judiciary Committee as "a very important position, so 
when Senator Hatch indicates his views with regard to a particular 
subject, we all take those views very seriously."

Some legal experts suggested Hatch's provocative remarks were more 
likely intended to compel technology and music executives to work faster 
toward ways to protect copyrights online than to signal forthcoming 
legislation.

"It's just the frustration of those who are looking at enforcing laws 
that are proving very hard to enforce," said Orin Kerr, a former Justice 
Department cybercrimes prosecutor and associate professor at George 
Washington University law school.

The entertainment industry has gradually escalated its fight against 
Internet file-traders, targeting the most egregious pirates with civil 
lawsuits. The Recording Industry Association of America recently won a 
federal court decision making it significantly easier to identify and 
track consumers - even those hiding behind aliases - using popular 
Internet file-sharing software.

Kerr predicted it was "extremely unlikely" for Congress to approve a 
hacking exemption for copyright owners, partly because of risks of 
collateral damage when innocent users might be wrongly targeted.

"It wouldn't work," Kerr said. "There's no way of limiting the damage."

Last year, Rep. Howard Berman, D-Calif., ignited a firestorm across the 
Internet over a proposal to give the entertainment industry new powers 
to disrupt downloads of pirated music and movies. It would have lifted 
civil and criminal penalties against entertainment companies for 
disabling, diverting or blocking the trading of pirated songs and movies 
on the Internet.

But Berman, ranking Democrat on the House Judiciary panel on the 
Internet and intellectual property, always has maintained that his 
proposal wouldn't permit hacker-style attacks by the industry on 
Internet users.

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On the Net: Sen. Hatch: http://hatch.senate.gov

TechNews.com Home <http://www.technews.com/>

© 2003 The Associated Press

 

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