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| From | Craig Leve <CraigL@ori.org> |
| Subject | Re: FOW and Billy Joel? (rant warning) |
| Date | Thu, 19 Jun 2003 14:03:43 -0700 |
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Honestly this post and stuff like Gabe's make me at once really sad, but
also angry (and heck, sad isn't hard for me, but angry isn't something I
have in much quantity). The moments I want to leave this list are when folks
tell me whether something fits THEIR cookie cutter. No, I'm not champing on
about the 'Audities party line' issue, which we've sliced and diced, ad
nauseum. I really don't like folks announcing for me where the borders are,
and what labels I should apply. Basically what the *rhymes with puck* does
it matter if Billy Joel is "ROCK" in the scheme of things and on what basis
are you even passing this judgement? I don't mean to sound sanctimonious,
but honestly - we're capable of much better around here. I'm not averse to
good solid criticism, and the very witty and SUBSTANTIVE dressing down that
goes on here, reveals a lot of naked emperors. But these posts are just
lunkhead ad hominen wanking as far as I'm concerned. Honestly these kinds of
posts make me less scared to post - not more. When the list sinks this low,
it really takes away the barriers to saying just about anything. In that
vein, I hope you'll excuse this rant.
For the record: I'm a fan of Billy Joel, though not over the top. I agree
with the poster who lauded "All for Leyna" - what a GREAT record. I'm not
much of a fan of rap, but I honestly believe there is much more to this
world than is dreamt of in my own philosophy. I simply don't know it
sufficiently to offer much, so I don't.
When I love this list: at it's most guilt-free, championing old & new music
that truly rings someone's bell. When I read something that leads me to hear
something old, but fresh again - making me rethink it - sometimes for good,
and sometimes for worse. In other words, I don't need all the 'up with
music' but for god sakes, give me something to consider.
again, apologies for going off - but sometimes I feel like we're just
getting our groove back, and something kicks us right back to this sorry
spot. Hoping I'm not a contributor to that. best,
craig
-----Original Message-----
From: Free, Doug [mailto:DFree@thedoctors.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2003 1:36 PM
To: 'audities@smoe.org'
Subject: Re: FOW and Billy Joel?
I really like the 1st FOW record (and that's the only one I own, so I can't
judge the new one) but I have to agree with Gabriel....Billy + Joel does not
= rock. -Doug
-----Original Message-----
From: Gabriel Fuentes [mailto:gabriel.fuentes@sbcglobal.net]
Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2003 1:31 PM
To: audities@smoe.org
Subject: FOW and Billy Joel?
Ok..now I know why I feel so bland about the new FOW--it is inspired by
Billy Joel..
Billy Joel and has nothing to do with rock'n'roll...
thanks explaining this to me you all..
all the best,
gabriel
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