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From "Harris, Will" <wharris1@bcharrispub.com>
Subject Sugarbomb interview (a bit long)
Date Fri, 30 May 2003 12:40:09 -0400

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There's a lot on the website bullz-eye.com that's less than work-friendly
(i.e. you wouldn't want to pull it up at your office), given that its slogan
is "The Guys' Portal To The Web," but my buddy David Medsker finally managed
to get them to run his interview with Sugarbomb.  Here's the site, if you
want to check it out firsthand, but, otherwise, here's the piece:



Pop music is the cruelest mistress. People have killed themselves for her
fleeting affections, and not even those who know her best can predict which
suitors she'll favor. 

Few bands of the last five years exemplify her fickle ways better than the
pride of Ft. Worth, Sugarbomb (not, for the record, named after Calvin's
favorite cereal, Chocolate Frosted Sugar Bombs). Their 2001 album, Bully
<../cdreviews/medsker/sugarbomb-bully.htm>, is a modern pop classic, with
nary a lazy track to be found though, we learn, that wasn't for lack of
effort on the label's part. The musicianship is top notch, the influences
are many and varied, and they can positively sing circles around their
nearest competitor. 

So it would make sense that, two weeks after Bully was released, Sugarbomb
were dropped by their label, RCA. The label chose to keep SR-71, who would
do a polka record if it was trendy, but dropped Sugarbomb. 

Ah, but such stories are how legends are born. The press went gaga over
them. The power pop circuit, the most cliquish, elitist form of music geek
ever bred, worships them. Other bands stood in awe of their talent. Vertical
Horizon even lent them their bass player. They were poised to expose the
current tenants of the Top 40 for the hackneyed frauds that they are, only
to have Lucy pull away the football at the last second. It may seem an
ignominious ending to be dropped from your label mere weeks after the
release of your album, but consider the release date:

September 25, 2001. Uh, yeah. 

Despite these setbacks, you have no chance of getting a sob story from
Sugarbomb founders Les Farrington (vocals, keys) and Daniel Harville
(vocals, guitar). If anything, the ordeal surrounding Bully has only made
them more focused. And if they sound occasionally bitter, that's the natural
reaction when the love of your life has replaced the picture of you in their
wallet with what you feel is a clearly inferior model. 

But first thing's first: How the hell did this brilliant pop band come from,
of all places, Ft. Worth, home of Pantera?

"Yeee haw!" Les jokes, trying valiantly to act the part. "It used to be that
cities in the south were left out of the ball game, but the proliferation of
the Web and satellites and cable television has opened the world up into a
global community, and I think that we're exposed to the same things everyone
else is. Although there's still a lot of cattle in the way while driving on
the freeway...."

"I don't get it myself," Daniel admits. 

Les elaborates a little more: "We are rednecks, but we drink our beer out of
wine glasses. So we've moved up a little."

A quick quizzing of favorite albums and songs shows just how diverse the
backgrounds of Les and Daniel truly are. Desert Island Disc lists put Neil
Young right next to Depeche Mode, the Bee Gees next to Radiohead. These two
truly belong together. Which begs the question: What were their former bands
like before, as Les put it, heaven entered their lives?

Daniel: Sugar. "It was '80s obligatory pop, Duran Duran meets Outfield,
topped off with Oingo Boingo."

Les: Bomb. "Before I met Daniel, I had a band called Herbert Herbert. It was
heavier, more sample driven. And before that, I was immaculately conceived
and was born as an adult and did not have a history." (Laughs) Les wouldn't
elaborate, but further probing revealed, yipes, cueing up vocal tapes for
his band mates to lip synch to. 

Having an ally in Vertical Horizon came in handy when it came time to record
the album. Cue Mighty Mouse theme, enter VH bassist Sean Hurley.

According to Les, "Our bass player at the time wasn't cutting it, wasn't
playing correctly. He was having a great time in LA, though. So Sean had a
week off, and he was gracious enough to spend his vacation from a very
hectic tour schedule to come in and play on our record. He then completely
blew our minds by coming in with all the music transcribed on paper, on a
stand in front of him, as he sight-read the entire record perfectly."

"He did the whole thing in two days," marveled Daniel.

"Which took us five months," Les deadpans. 

The most startling revelation about Bully is that it had the potential to be
even better. They received, you could say, misguided advice from the A&R
department. Apparently, the boys were just too damn smart for their own
good. 

"When we signed with RCA, we had a lot of very good music," Les said. "I'm
not going to mention specific songs because I'm proud of everything we've
ever done. But there are some songs on the album I'm not as proud of because
it was a plug and play kind of thing. We wrote the songs and dumbed
ourselves down, according to our A&R direction. I kept saying, 'It's too
smart, we gotta dumb it down! Dumb it down!'"

Later, however, Les lets his guard down, and confesses which songs were late
additions in an attempt to make the album "better." Among the guilty: the
title track, "Clover" and "Gone."

"'Clover' is a song we wrote specifically for the A&R," Les says sheepishly.
"It's fun, it's quick, it's throwaway. We had to look at songs less as a
relationship and more like a one-night stand."

"We wrote ('Gone') in the studio in LA as a last minute thing," Daniel adds.
"It was definitely fashioned toward that."

"But we tried to inject some intelligence into it," Les says hopefully.

Most ironically, this is how they came up with the album's hit single,
"Hello."

"I wrote the verses for 'Hello' before I even met the Sugarbomb guys," Les
says. "When they kept telling us, 'Dumb it down, dumb it down,' we sent [the
A&R guy] 'Hello' as a joke, as in, 'Want it dumb, buddy? Here it comes!' I
was expecting him to go, 'Well, not that dumb.' Instead, he goes, 'Wow.' And
I said, 'I don't understand this business at all.'"

This A&R svengali must have gone straight for their medication when they
heard "After All," which sounds so much like Queen that Jellyfish surely
considered suing them for copyright infringement. Is there a place for a
song so defiantly non-commercial on a pop record in these unit-shifting
times?

"That was another song that our A&R guy said, 'Too many Queen references,
too much like Queen,'" Les chuckles. "Then, of course, SR-71 came out with
the video with the big Queen harmony, (sings) 'such a nice boy.' And even
the video, they ripped off 'Bohemian Rhapsody.'" 

Yes, it all comes back to SR-71 who, in their eyes, were RCA's model son to
Sugarbomb's red-headed stepchild, not wholly unlike the harassed girl on
Bully's cover. But time wounds all heels and, when last we heard from the
lads in SR-71, they had moved on to ripping off Linkin Park. 

Despite their cracks about the poor direction the band received from RCA,
Les and Daniel are also the first to defend them. They understood that
ultimately, this was a business decision, and sometimes that means
protecting the bottom line at the expense of, say, making the world a better
place. 

"I'd love to say 'damn RCA,' but actually they're being very cool with us,"
Les admits. "They're helping with other labels, saying what a promising band
we are, telling them how easy to work with [we are]. They're going to give
up our record to another label without a fight, and I think they felt bad
about [letting us go]. They only thing I wish they had done is not released
our record, and let us go on and try to find a new home for it, and not make
it like some used material."

"They just had to pick their bands for the future," Les says
matter-of-factly. "It was business."

As frustrating as it may have been to be told that their music was too
smart, Les and Daniel knew, grudgingly, that the label had a point. It's
easy to blame the Big Five for lowering the standards of the music buying
public, but the fact is, the public always has the last word. 

"I don't know if it's the labels to blame," Daniel offers. "People want
McDonald's. They don't want gourmet music all the time. That's why a lot of
the music you hear is not rocket science."

"We live in a very throwaway society," Les acknowledges. "Everything is
disposable."

However, laments Daniel, "it does seem like the days of the true music
craftsmen are numbered."

"I love 'Hello,' but it's not our shining moment," Les says. "We wanted
[Bully] to be like a Beatles album, where you didn't know what was coming
next. I think that's what's missing from music today. Every band is just one
long song."

And so it goes. Our heroes are down, but by no means out. They played it the
label's way last time, and are determined to learn from their mistakes. And
Bully, for all its compromises, is still a hell of a first step. One only
wonders what it could have been like had they been allowed to do what they
originally wanted to do. 

Les answers that last comment with a mock warning: "Well, get ready, because
it will not happen again."


Regards, 
WiLL 
WiLLiAm E. HaRRiS 
Call Scripting Analyst
Bernard C. Harris Publishing Company 
Chesapeake, VA 
Ph. 1-757-965-8055
<mailto:wharris1@bcharrispub.com> 



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