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From "*Bill Holmes*" <bholmes_fm@msn.com>
Subject Ethical question regarding bootlegs
Date Thu, 22 May 2003 07:44:37 -0400

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Raised this point elsewhere but thought it was an interesting question to
discuss...we've bandied the bootlegging issue here many times, with the
general consensus being that if the artists don't object and no money
changes hands, it's OK as most of the traders buy all the artists commercial
product anyway (and would not copy and distribute legitimate releases).

But...Clear Channel - the Evil Empire who makes Ticketmaster look like Mom's
Diner - wants to implement contract clauses giving them permission to record
and sell their concerts immediately after the show in the lobbies of arenas.
Obviously, to do this, they will have to have an agreement with the artists
as well as a financial arrangement and an auditing process. I also imagine
that for this to get off the ground, the record company of said artist will
be eating a piece of that pie. (Matter of fact, I suspect the record
companies will ENCOURAGE this arrangement for the reasons below).

Most tapers I know immediately stopped trading boots of Who and Pearl Jam
shows that were being offered for sale by the bands themselves...these shows
now fell under the category of authorized releases and ethical trades pulled
them off the market. But what happens when EVERY arena show is now "booted"
by a conglomerate with the artists permission (and profit participation).
Clear Channel may suck, but they're a legitimate corporation like Sony or
Universal, and in effect would own the rights to that concert recording. So
isn't booting one of those shows now piracy at the same level as booting an
album (or a show that was released as a live album)?

Now THAT will be an interesting dilemma for tapers. If you're a person who
swaps shows (and I know many here who are)...what would you do?

b

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