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| From | "josh chasin" <jchasin@nyc.rr.com> |
| Subject | Re: Ethical question regarding bootlegs |
| Date | Thu, 22 May 2003 21:04:42 -0400 |
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Just food for thought-- Phish allows trading of audience recordings of shows
they've released officially as soundboards. You can tape, you can trade--
just not the version for sale.
----- Original Message -----
From: "*Bill Holmes*" <bholmes_fm@msn.com>
To: "Auditeers" <audities@smoe.org>
Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2003 7:44 AM
Subject: Ethical question regarding bootlegs
> Raised this point elsewhere but thought it was an interesting question to
> discuss...we've bandied the bootlegging issue here many times, with the
> general consensus being that if the artists don't object and no money
> changes hands, it's OK as most of the traders buy all the artists
commercial
> product anyway (and would not copy and distribute legitimate releases).
>
> But...Clear Channel - the Evil Empire who makes Ticketmaster look like
Mom's
> Diner - wants to implement contract clauses giving them permission to
record
> and sell their concerts immediately after the show in the lobbies of
arenas.
> Obviously, to do this, they will have to have an agreement with the
artists
> as well as a financial arrangement and an auditing process. I also imagine
> that for this to get off the ground, the record company of said artist
will
> be eating a piece of that pie. (Matter of fact, I suspect the record
> companies will ENCOURAGE this arrangement for the reasons below).
>
> Most tapers I know immediately stopped trading boots of Who and Pearl Jam
> shows that were being offered for sale by the bands themselves...these
shows
> now fell under the category of authorized releases and ethical trades
pulled
> them off the market. But what happens when EVERY arena show is now
"booted"
> by a conglomerate with the artists permission (and profit participation).
> Clear Channel may suck, but they're a legitimate corporation like Sony or
> Universal, and in effect would own the rights to that concert recording.
So
> isn't booting one of those shows now piracy at the same level as booting
an
> album (or a show that was released as a live album)?
>
> Now THAT will be an interesting dilemma for tapers. If you're a person who
> swaps shows (and I know many here who are)...what would you do?
>
> b
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