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From "Sager, Greg" <greg.sager@bankofamerica.com>
Subject Re: What you wish for
Date Tue, 29 Apr 2003 08:47:39 -0500

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> Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2003 19:38:30 -0500
> From: jon harrison <jonhar@alltel.net>
> To: audities@smoe.org
> Subject: Re: What you wish for
> Message-ID: <3EADC932.BBD7C3AF@alltel.net>
> 
> >
> 
> Greg and everybody:  I've been following this discussion with interest,
> and while
> it's just tangential, I found this statement a bit odd:
> 
> >
> >         I think that it's most prevalent among punkers, because punk's
> > original DIY ethic was almost an article of faith. Major labels were
> > strictly verboten in old-school punk.
> 
> Are you sure?  The Ramones, Saints, Pistols, Wire, Sham 69, Dead Boys,
> Radio
> Birdman, Television, Talking Heads, Wire and on and on were all on major
> labels.
> It would seem rather, that most of classic "old-school" punk, at least the
> stuff
> out of the Killed-By Death/"we pressed 200 copies and only 27 had picture
> sleeves"
> realm was the domain of major labels.
> 
> Just noticin'
> 
	What I should've said was "hardcore" instead of "punk". For some
reason, my friends in the Doc Martens brigade seem to now eschew the term
"hardcore", and have reverted to calling the bands of the Germs/Angry
Samoans/Naked Raygun/Minor Threat/Black Flag/Fear, etc., era and ilk
"old-school punk". The bands you name are what they refer to as "classic
punk" (although some of them -- Television and Talking Heads, for example --
weren't really punk by a lot of people's standards). Maybe it's just a
Chicago thing. Anyway, I seem to have picked up their terminology by
osmosis.

	Labels. They obscure more than they enlighten.


	Gregory Sager

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