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| From | Miles Goosens <outdoorminer@mindspring.com> |
| Subject | Re: Toby Keith, Kool Moe Dee and misogyny |
| Date | Fri, 25 Apr 2003 16:48:29 -0500 |
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At 05:25 PM 4/25/2003 -0400, Eytan Mirsky wrote:
>Miles wrote re"How You Like Me Now":
>The latter, of course, proved that he was a misogynistic asshole long before
>he
>added wrapping himself in the flag to his resume of musical crimes. Plus
>Big
>Daddy Kane already did the same title, and did it infinitely better.
>Perhaps
>any future boot-ass appointment should be between Kane's boot and Keith's
>ass.
>
>I reply:
>I think you might mean Kool Moe Dee, unless there's a third song by that
>title.. That was actually the only rap 45 I ever purchased.
Damn, you're right. My gaffe. I was even picturing the right guy -- and also own the song -- but my hands typed out another three-named '80s rapper instead. Also, I think Toby puts a "Do" in there ("How Do You Like Me Now?"), though I could be wrong.
>And, and I don't think the song is misogynistic. Certainly the same general
>sentiments could've been written by a woman about a man. And God knows no
>other popular groups have expressed "misogynistic" a la "Under My Thumb" or
>countless others.
I'll stick by my interpretation, thanks, and I hardly see where the fact that other groups have done the same thing makes Keith's outstanding work in the misogyny field somehow more forgivable.
I'm actually very hesitant in most cases to throw the "misogynistic" word out there -- for instance, I think of EDDIE MURPHY RAW as being much more misanthropic than misogynistic since he rags on everyone (and he's dead on about whichever Joanna that Johnny Carson was divorcing at the time) -- but there's a level of hatefulness in "How You Like Me Now" that's pretty astounding. I'm sure he would have worked a "bitch" or two into the lyrics if it wouldn't have gotten the single pulled from country radio. But then again, every Toby Keith song that I've heard seems to boil down to "shut up and suck my dong" or "you wish I would tell you to shut up and suck my dong." "I Wanna Talk About Me" exemplifies this even more than "How [Do] You Like Me Now?" IMO.
later,
Miles
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