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From "Seaman, Dave" <seamand@MSX.UPMC.EDU>
Subject wynn tribs dion universal
Date Mon, 3 Feb 2003 13:25:29 -0500

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Michael Giblin wrote about my pho-pa:

  Also, Steve Wynn kerosene man
> - is this the guy from Cherry Twister?  if so, never heard of this one,
but
> it was only $1, so what the hey.

Oh my god that was so funny.  The two of them COULD NOT be any more
different...on many different levels....

I didn't mean to be funny -- but I've been unintentionally funny in the
past, and i will be again, i'm sure!   (at least i didn't confuse him with
the guy who played Herman Munster...)  anyway, now that i've listened to
kerosene man, i see whatcha mean!   by the way, the Steve Wynn CD i
purchased was actually the Kerosene Man CD single, which is the title track
plus 4 songs not on the full-length.  no "caroline".  I'll have to look for
the proper CD now...

Dan wrote:

Awhile back there was discussion of what artists, if any, were deserving of 
one of the fantastic power-pop tributes that this community is known for. 
After much thought, I nominate the following three:

The Cars
Marshall Crenshaw
Hall & Oates

These are great choices for tributes.  i like the Cars, but i think a
tribute by a variety of new bands might inject some warmth into their cold
hard style, and some melodic variety into their somewhat monotone delivery
(which i know is their trademark, and i love it in small does, but i get
tired of it after about 5-6 songs).  marshall writes great songs and is a
heckuva performer, but IMO there is a bit a sameness to his material over
the years that a tribute might help difuse.  and i always dug H+O -- very
catchy pop tunes -- except that their 80s stuff was soooo slick and
produced.   a shot of power and passion from a bunch of our favorite p
popsters should give the material a kick in the pants.   in general, i would
much rather hear tributes where i think improvement can be made, rather than
situations where bands just retread a band's hits in the same old same old
fashion as the originals.  or where there isn't much room for improvement.
which is why i can't picture a queen tribute.  love em or hate em, what's
the point of a queen tribute - how can you out-queen queen?

another type of tribute i like is taking great music from a great band that
was poorly recorded in say, the sixties, and giving it the benefit of up to
date recording technology.  take for example, the early kinks (60s catalog)
-- great material, great band, but i rarely listen to their early recordings
because of the thin dated sound of the recordings.  if the right bands were
involved, i'd snatch up a modern trib of this stuff.  come to think of it,
there is a kinks trib or two out already, isn't there?  i recall hearing
that fountains of wayne, whom i love, do "Better Days".  in fact i have a
video of them doing this on one of the late night shows, shortly after 9/11
if i do recall.  simply great.   any comments on the kinks trib(s)?

Mark Hersheberger said:

There is just simply no way in the world that I could, under ANY
circumstances, like anything that comes out of Celine Dion's ugly mouth!
Whew....I feel better now.

I just heard her version of All By Myself.  man, take an already
melodramatic song and then bludgeon it to death!  it kinda started out kinda
okay, but by end, i felt pistol whipped!   i just can't figure out how
someone that big in the biz and who has been in music all her life, has
never really sat down and figured out that you just sing the song, try to
let the emotion flow, and skip the vocal cartwheels. maybe she is
perpetually wearing the emperor's new clothes.  i really think her and maria
and christina and the whole diva ilk are the ones that are living out one
big "my johnson is bigger than yours" contest,  in public, for all of our
displeasure...  er, well, you know what i mean... but you know what bums me
out even worse, is that this is what so many of the up and coming pop
songstresses are being weened on and emulate -- i'll bet some actually have
nice voices and real talent, but who would know?   hey, she's 16, she's a
babe, and she can fit 153 notes of "woaaaa" into one measure - let's sign er
up!!!  okay, enuff preaching to the choir.

and finally, to weigh in on the universally loved countdown:
Squeeze:  LIKE SOME OF THEIR STUFF A LOT
XTC:  LOVE EM TO DEATH
Matthew Sweet:  LIKE A LOT MOST OF THE TIME
Aimee Mann:  LOVE MOST OF THE TIME
Teenage Fanclub: WHAT I'VE HEARD IS OK
Sloan:  DITTO
Splitsville:  LOVE EM, ESPECIALLY IF YOU INCLUDE GREENBERRY WOODS (AND WHY
NOT?)
Cherry Twister:  LIKE A WHOLE LOT, BUT I'VE ONLY HEARD ONE PLUS ALBUM
Owsley:  LIKE, BUT REALLY, NOT ENOUGH MATERIAL OUT THERE TO PUT ON THIS
LIST!
The Merrymakers:  LOVE BUBBLEGUN, THE REST I LIKE
The Vandalias:  DON'T KNOW EM
Myracle Brah:  LIKE LIFE ON PLANET EARTHSNOP (SP?), BUT AFTER L O P E, ITS
ALL THE SAME SONG WRITTEN OVER AGAIN AND AGAIN TO ME
The Shazam:  LIKE THE DEBUT, HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING ELSE.

All this goes to prove is that there is no way there will ever be one band
that is universally loved, even within the relatively small confines of this
list.


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